On the most recent edition of the Strike Force Five podcast, Fallon said that he wasn’t initially considered to host Late Night on NBC.

The podcast is a collaboration between Fallon, Stephen Colbert, Jimmy Kimmel, Seth Meyers, and John Oliver.

Fallon said, “He [Michaels] goes, ‘Would you ever want to do a talk show?’ I go, ‘I don’t think so. … In six years, ask me, and if I’m around I’ll think about it.'”

He continued, “So, I call Lorne, and I go, ‘I’m in. I’d love to do it.’ He goes, ‘Great. NBC doesn’t really want you. But we have to talk to them.’ I’m not even on their list, by the way.”

He added, “‘Either you do this with Jimmy, or I’m not involved,’ or something like that. Changed my life.”

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